WorldOrthodoxWatch - Correcting Errors and Abuses - 66 years of polite correction was tried before the Anathema against Ecumenism was issued. In the face of the Denial of the discrimination against True Orthodox Christians and Mislabelling us as Schismatics When we are the ones who have historically been abused and even murdered by them.docx Page 1 of 3 We True Orthodox Christians are happy to engage in Polite Discussions with anybody. But those discussions must be on the basis of factual truth, not slander and lies. It is a fact that despite the fierce persecution, even unto martyrdom, of what are now known as True Orthodox Christians from 1917 onwards in Russia, spreading to Greece, Cyprus, Romania and Turkey from 1923, then onto the rest of Eastern Europe with its occupation by Communists as the Second World War drew to a close, was met by a very polite and long-winded negotiation from the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia, trying to persuade the modernists, New Calendarists and others, to stop persecuting them and to return to Holy Tradition, including the Patristic or Old Calendar. For 66 years. Until finally, in 1983 their patience had been exhausted. Far from correcting their errors, the modernists had added the far more serious one of Ecumenism – co-worshipping with the heterodox and recognising their “churches” as “valid” (a condition of World Council of Churches membership). So, it should be repeated that we True Orthodox have been fiercely persecuted, even unto murder and martyrdom, entirely unprovoked, by New Calendarists and other “Orthodox” “modernists” (known for decades now as “World Orthodox”). This included the martyrdoms of the likes of Catherine Routtis, Protomartyr for the Holy Traditions, of Mandra, Attica, Greece, in 1927. The denial of this along with the old lie that we are schismatics was repeated yet again by “The Church of the Eternal Logos” channel.
See also Tweet: World Orthodox in denial yet again about their persecution and murder of True Orthodox Christians. World Orthodox and New Calendarist Antiochian Orthodox Church of the Eternal Logos YouTube Channel this time. https://trueorthodoxfleauponerroneousfleas.blogspot.com/2024/10/worldorthodoxwatch-correcting-errors.html
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We True Orthodox Christians are happy to engage in Polite Discussions with anybody.
But those discussions must be on the basis of factual truth, not slander and lies.
It is a fact that despite the fierce persecution, even unto martyrdom, of what are now known as True Orthodox Christians from 1917 onwards in Russia, spreading to Greece, Cyprus, Romania and Turkey from 1923, then onto the rest of Eastern Europe with its occupation by Communists as the Second World War drew to a close, was met by a very polite and long-winded negotiation from the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia, trying to persuade the modernists, New Calendarists and others, to stop persecuting them and to return to Holy Tradition, including the Patristic or Old Calendar.
For 66 years.
Until finally, in 1983 their patience had been exhausted. Far from correcting their errors, the modernists had added the far more serious one of Ecumenism – co-worshipping with the heterodox and recognising their “churches” as “valid” (a condition of World Council of Churches membership).
So, it should be repeated that we True Orthodox have been fiercely persecuted, even unto murder and martyrdom, entirely unprovoked, by New Calendarists and other “Orthodox” “modernists” (known for decades now as “World Orthodox”). This included the martyrdoms of the likes of Catherine Routtis, Protomartyr for the Holy Traditions, of Mandra, Attica, Greece, in 1927.
The denial of this along with the old lie that we are schismatics was repeated yet again by “The Church of the Eternal Logos” channel.
It turns out that this Channel´s owner is under the “Patriarchate of Antioch”, which has long been Ecumenist, thus falling under the 1983 Anathema Against Ecumenism by the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia (ROCOR). They are also New Calendarists, thus falling under the many anathemas against the Gregorian Calendar, which they effectively follow, from 1583 onwards, from pan-Orthodox Synods, right through to local Synods.
They also fall under the ROCOR 2001 Anathema Against the New Calendar, specifically aimed at their so called “New Julian Calendar” (with its mix of the Gregorian calendar and the Patristic aka Julian, Paschalion).
This channel mentions polite discussions between Father Joseph Suaidan, who is True Orthodox, and Father John Whiteford, but then repeats the lie that the True Orthodox are Schismatics.
No, we are not schismatics. You are heretics as laid out above.
I very much hope that you repent.
And that we can reunite on the basis of Truth.
No further discussion here. Happy to elucidate further on X
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