Response and final response to response calling upon those concerned about the persecution of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church to join the only true Church, the True Orthodox Church of Russia (RTOC)

Response and final response to response calling upon those concerned about the persecution of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church to join the only true Church, the True Orthodox Church of Russia (RTOC)
 

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Response and final response to response calling upon those concerned about the persecution of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church to join the only true Church, the True Orthodox Church of Russia (RTOC)

The solution is to join the True Orthodox Church of Russia, which has a Cathedral in Odessa, Ukraine. Also, go to the website www.trueorthodox.eu 

Ukrainian Orthodox Church Persecution Reaches U.S. Congress

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92G3k4kiiHc

My comment:

The "Ukrainian Orthodox Church" was set up by the "Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople". The Ecumenical Patriarchate was captured by modernist Ecumenists led by freemason Meletius Metaxakis who issued the notorious 1920 Patriarchal Encyclical which recognised heretics and schismatics as part of the Church, as well as proposing unity with them without any repentance by them and banning proselytization of them.

This was a follow up from the 1916 Central Powers occupation of 2/3s of Romania imposition of the Gregorian Calendar for all Christmas celebrations. This was resisted by traditionalists led by St. Galaction. Way back in 1867 the Romanian Synod had unanimously vetoed the attempts by the prince of Romania to adopt the Gregorian Calendar for Religious purposes. But, by 1916 decades of studies of Romanian Orthodox clergy in heretical western institutions had done their work, and most did not resist.

In 1923 the Ecumenical Patriarchate, with its affiliates the Romanian Orthodox Church, to which it rewarded them with "autocephaly" and recognised a Romanian "Patriarch", along with the Churches of Greece and Cyprus paracanonically introduced the "New Julian" Calendar (which coincides with the "Gregorian Calendar" until 2800 for fixed feasts, whilst using the traditional Church Calendar (aka "Julian" after Julius Caesar who introduced the calendar it is based upon, though this was modified by Augustus Caesar, the first Roman Emperor, in whose reign Christ was born) for its Paschalion and fasts and feasts linked to it, as established at Nicaea).

Worse still, it allowed its affiliate, the Church of Finland, to introduced the Gregorian calendar for all feasts and fasts.

The para-canonical Robber Synod of Constantinople of 1923 initially deceived the Moscow Patriarchate under Patriarch Tikhon into thinking that a unanimous consensus of the local churches had agreed to the calendar changes, and to going along with them by introducing the New Julian Calendar by phases. This introduction was immediately resisted by some of the monks in the monasteries it was introduced in.

The Moscow Patriarchate had been separated from much communication by the Russian Civil War, which was drawing to a close (in 1924 the Japanese evacuated from the Far Eastern Republic, resulting in the final victory of the Soviets except in those areas, the Baltic States, Finland, Bessarabia and a small area around Batum which had been ceded to Turkey by Treaty, on the fringe of what had been the Russian Empire which they had failed to conquer). As soon as they realised that they had been deceived, they suspended and reversed the reforms.

Finland was later followed by its fellow paraconical affiliate of the Ecumenical Patriarchate, the Church of Estonia, paracanonically stripped from the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia (ROCOR), in introducing the Gregorian Calendar in its entirety. The Estonians have, however, since sensibly reverted to the traditional Church Calendar (aka the "Julian Calendar").

Both of these new calendars, the Gregorian and the para-Gregorian elements of what became the New Julian had been explicitly condemned at local and pan-Orthodox synods, as well as by encyclicals and decretals dating back to 1583, just after the 1581 Romanist Papist innovation of the Gregorian calendar.

Even before this, in the 14th century, proposals to change to a purely solar calendar were rejected by the (Eastern) Roman Empire, and this was explicitly confirmed through the continued use of the

Indeed it had always been observed, since the time of the Old Testament Church, that we must separate out Ecclesiastical time, which is in accordance with the cycle of the heavens (and on which parsecs (space-time (as borrowed by the popular science fiction programme "Star Trek" with its "Star Dates" system is based), from the solar time which we use to plant and sow crops (using, anciently, sun dials to help with this), as was noted by both ecclesiastical and civil authorities. This was noted by the saints, such as St. Bede.

St. Bede, writing shortly after the Celtic Churches had come into line, following the Synod of Whitby, with the English Church and the rest of the Patriarchate of Rome and the West, at the Synod of Whitby, in his writings on time, including De Temporibus, noted that we should note the time differences in terms of the planting and harvesting of crops (for which his still extant sun dials on the outside of his still extant church in Jarrow still serve as an accurate guide), but continue to celebrate the fast and feasts. St. Bede died in 735 AD. The Church New Year follows the Old Testament calendar, and thus now falls on September 1/14.

That is why the date, correctly written out in full, acknowledges all of these systems. So, for those of us on earth today´s date in full goes as follows: Tuesday 4/17 December 2025 Anno Domini (AD) / 7534 Year from Adam and the Creation of the World (YFA). The civil calendar of Mount Athos continues to observe purely the church calendar. And so "17 December" would generally be dropped there, except for some external correspondence which requires it for civil administrative purposes, with the rest of the World. Many of the saints, such as St. John Maximovitch, only ever wrote church dates, including on his cheques (which has the practical consequence of reducing the date of validity of the cheque by 2 weeks in some places).

Ecumenical, pan-Orthodox and local synods have continued to reject all other systems, and a number of miracles, such as the annual reversal of the flow of the River Jordan to go up hill on Theophany (January 6/19) continue to happen for the Doubting Thomases amongst us.

There has also been divine protection through miraculous appearances of the Holy Cross, witnessed by thousands of people, on the Feast of the Holy Cross, in Greece. In Athens in 1925, Crete in 1938 and in Piraeus in 1984. In the latter case a colour photo was taken by a 15 year old schoolgirl taking part in a parade. This was later published in the big glossy book about Ecumenist betrayal, in Greek, Philemata Judason - Kisses of Judas.

There is a solution for the those who are victims of the Ecumenical Patriarchate´s paracanonical creation of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church and their paracanonical unilateral subsequent elevation of them to the status of a "Patriarchate" and the Zelenski Government´s imposition of the New Julian calendar upon them and total state control, and that is to leave Ecumenist, heretical World Orthodoxy (condemned under the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia (ROCOR) 1983 Anathema Against Ecumenism, inter alia) and that is to repent and join the only fully canonical, and therefore valid, successor Synod of ROCOR, The True Orthodox Church of Russia under the Omophorion of First Hierarch Metropolitan Archbishop Tikhon of Omsk and all-Siberia, which has a cathedral in Odessa. Go to the relevant local website here: www.trueorthodox.eu. Start the process!

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Dear Tribulation saints.

I have broken down your reply and my response to it into a number of points.

You state:

1. “This comment reflects a sectarian Old-Calendarist narrative, not the teaching or ecclesiology of the Orthodox Church.”

Not it does not. The Church dealt with matters of the calendar at the Ecumenical Council of Nicea I, and confirmed this calendar through ecumenical synods, in which it used it, through to the Ecumenical Council of Constantinople in 1484, by always using it in its liturgy, and as appropriate in its Synodal decisions and correspondence. This is neither a sectarian, nor an Old-Calendarist narrative. What I am promoting instead of this is the actual teaching and correct ecclesiology of the Orthodox Church.

This alone makes your second point false:

2. “The calendar is not dogma,”

Clearly the calendar is dogma, at least in part, with Nicaea I prohibiting celebration of Easter before the Jewish passover (as celebrated at the time of our Lord). The Gregorian calendar violates this. So any person in World Orthodoxy who goes to Finland and/or who celebrates in accordance with the Finnish Orthodox Church, and/or is in communion with the Finnish Orthodox Church, which the Orthodox Church of Ukraine is, and all of World Orthodoxy is or has been, clearly violates this.

You then go one to say:

3.“[the calendar] has never been defined as such by an Ecumenical Council,”

Please see previous statement. This is clearly not the case if you care to re-examine it honestly and the Holy Spirit helps you to discern things correctly.

And to cite another example, it was through a Council that it was decided to change the feast of the Transfiguration from being a moveable feast to a Fixed Feast on August 6th. See: Father Basile Sakkas in his book, The Calendar Question. You can read it for free online at: https://www.hotca.org/orthodoxy/orthodox-awareness/203-the-calendar-question

Next you say:

4. “...and disagreement over it does not place the Church outside grace.”

A temporary dispensation under Economy was granted by the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia (ROCOR) to Bulgarian and Romanian New Julian Calendarist bishops and their flocks fleeing Communist persecution. One of these, a Romanian, participated in the consecration of a Greek bishop for America on the Old Calendar in Detroit.

However, all of these bishops and their parishes left ROCOR for ecumenist modernist minded jurisdictions prior to ROCOR´s 1983 Anathema Against Ecumenism. Subsequent to this Anathema applications by New Julian Calendarist parishes to join and remain under the New Calendar even temporarily, have all been refused. The temporary dispensation under economy has long come to an end.

Then you go on to say:

5. “Saints, miracles, and holy lives exist on both calendars, including long after 1923.”

Well there are no “saints” on anything but the true Church (aka Patristic aka Julian aka Old) Calendar. There are some saints who weren´t on the correct calendar until the Council of Nicaea I had been thoroughly absorbed and implemented, reflecting an early tradition of celebrating, in some places, according to Quartodeciman practice (from Latin quarta decima, fourteenth), where some Christians, especially in Asia Minor, celebrated Easter on the 14th day of the Jewish month of Nisan (Passover), regardless of the day of the week, linking it to the Jewish Paschal lamb. This contrasted with the Western tradition of celebrating only on Sunday, leading to disputes resolved by the Council of Nicaea (325 AD), which established the first Sunday after the first full moon after the Spring Equinox as the standard, creating the movable feast we know today. 

Here are some of the

Key Aspects of the Quartodeciman Movement:

• Origin: Believed to stem from apostolic tradition, with figures like Polycarp of Smyrna advocating it as originating from John the Apostle.

• Focus: Commemorating Christ's Passion (the crucifixion) on the same day as the Jewish Passover (Nisan 14).

• Contrast: The Roman and Alexandrian churches insisted on Sunday, as it marked the Resurrection.

• Outcome: The Council of Nicaea unified the date, but the Quartodeciman practice faded, though echoes remain in some Eastern traditions. 

The 14-Day Connection is because in the Jewish Calendar: The 14th of Nisan always fell on a full moon, linking it directly to Passover.

• Lunar Basis: Early Easter dates were tied to lunar cycles, which is why Easter remains a movable feast, falling between March 22 and April 25. 

In essence, the "14 days" refers to the historical tension between celebrating the event (Passover, 14th Nisan) versus the day of the week (Sunday, Resurrection). 

• The term "Quartodeciman" refers to the practice of ending the Lenten fast on Nisan 14 of the Hebrew calendar, "the LORD's passover…

So, there may have been some saints that followed this variation on the calendar. But the First Ecumenical Council clarified this and put an end to this for the Church as a whole.

There were some saints from isolates such as the Celtic Churches who continued to follow a different calendar, such as St. Cuthbert of Lindisfarne, but this was sorted out by the Synod of Whitby, in England, which brought them into line in the 7th century AD. After which, like those following the 14 day tradition, it faded out. It was the Petrine tradition of the Patriarchate of Rome and the West which was the winning argument. This was fully in line with Nicaea I and all the other Ecumenical Synods to date. The Celtic Churches did not exercise an option to appeal to an Ecumenical Synod, no doubt sensing that they would lose because of what had previously been decided by Ecumenical Synods.

There are no saints post-1923 who died under anything but the Old Calendar, or people whose lives can be considered to be truly holy. World Orthodoxy uses 3, not 2 calendars, as previously explained and as is obvious from even the most cursory of examinations, in the services it leads. However, in the Ecumenist services it follows of the openly heterodox and other religions, there is an infinity of different calendars which could be used. Liturgical chaos.

Also, miracles can also be demonic. They only prove sanctity if they are in accordance with correct dogma. St. Leo of Catania dragged a wrong believer through a fire because he was conning people through miracles. The non-believer died. The appearances of the Holy Cross according to the Old Calendar are for the benefit of the doubting Thomases, as previously stated

“Claims that “World Orthodoxy” is graceless” are correct because World Orthodoxy had 66 years to come to its senses about modernism and Ecumenism as part of it, but instead did not. The World Council of Churches General Assembly meeting in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada in 1983 refused the request of Bishop Gabriel of the Cyclades Islands in Greece to speak. He wanted them to condemn the persecution of Orthodox traditionalists including behind the iron curtain, just as the World Council of Churches had condemned abuses by Western Colonial powers and others. His speech was published, nevertheless, in full, in the New York Times. ROCOR unanimously issued its Anathema Against Ecumenism swiftly afterwards, under which all of World Orthodox fell. It met at its skete in Mansonville, Eastern Townships, Québec, Canada. Wõrld Orthodoxy thus became graceless.

You then add:

7. “or that a single micro-jurisdiction constitutes the only canonical Church have been explicitly rejected by the Orthodox Church — including by ROCOR itself. “

We are told in the bible, “Fear not oh small flock, for it is thy father´s pleasure to give thee the Kingdom”, meaning the Holy Spirit. The size of a jurisdiction is irrelevant, therefore, or actually favours, under some circumstances, smaller jurisdictions. Saints have often been in a small minority. Mark of Ephesus found himself standing alone and refusing to sign. There is every possibility that the Orthodox Church can be reduced to a single small Orthodox jurisdiction. As for micro-jurisdictions, they certainly exist within World Orthodoxy. Sinai has just one bishop. That´s certainly a lot fewer than we have.

Next you say:

8. “ROCOR condemned precisely this kind of exclusivist ecclesiology and restored communion with the Moscow Patriarchate in 2007.”

This is disingenous, to put it politely. ROCOR had actually split some time previously as it became obvious that some of the bishops were more interested in being united with their fellow “Russians” than with Christ. Thus we had faithful ROCOR-V for ROCOR-Vitali, which rejected any union or restoration of communion with the Sergianist and Ecumenist “Moscow Patriarchate” unless the “Moscow Patriarchate”. The Moscow Patriarchate was hijacked by Sergius in the 1920s with the support of Stalin), and has remained the tool of the Soviet Union and its successor, the Russian Federation, ever since. ROCOR-Vitali did go into communion with the Synod of Metropolitan Cyprian of Fili on the basis that Cyprian´s Synod had been wrongly convicted of making the false claim that World Orthodoxy continued to have grace despite being in heresy and error (over Ecumenism and the Calendar Question). Once it became plain to ROCOR-V´s Synod that the charges against Cyprian could be well founded, they then broke communion with the Cyprianites.

It was ROCOR-Laurus, aka ROCOR-L which went into communion with the “Moscow Patriarchate” in 2007, despite the “Moscow Patriarchate”´s failure to repent of either Sergianism or Ecumenism.

You then go on to say:

9. “Orthodoxy is not preserved through isolationist self-appointed “true” synods, but through conciliarity, apostolic succession, and catholic unity, even amid real struggles and imperfections. Disagreement, discernment, and critique are legitimate. Declaring the entire Orthodox Church apostate is not.”

The True Orthodox Church of Russia (RTOC) is not isolationist – it has held discussions with other Synods such as that of the Russian Orthodox Autonomous Church (ROAC) about co-worship potentially leading to coming into communion and even unification of the two Synods. This led, for a time, to mutual attendance and celebration at each others services, without taking communion from the other jurisdiction. However, sadly, a reappearance of name-worshipping tendencies occurred within ROAC and so we did not end up going into communion, let alone synodical union with them.

The RTOC also ordained Akakije as bishop, creating the True Orthodox Church of Serbia in 2011 after the Genuine Orthodox Church of Greece under Kallinikos (GOC-K) had violated canons stating that the maximum length of time that an external bishop can rule over another see is one year. A bishop of their own had been refused to the Serbs for many years. The RTOC said that though it would prefer the GOC-K to ordain a bishop for Serbia, it would ordain one if they would not. Sadly, this is what occurred, leading to a breach in communion with GOC-K and some of us leaving GOC-K and ending up in the RTOC. A second bishop, Nektarije, was subsequently consecrated. However, the TOCS subsequently ordained some non-Serbian priests without permission on the canonical territory of the RTOC in Russia and Ukraine, alleging irregularities in the RTOC. No evidence of irregularities was presented, and so RTOC broke communion with the TOCS.

Subsequently, when the GOC-K had a false union with the unrepentant Cyprianites in 2014 the RTOC position became that they had entered the Ecumenist heresy. Later the GOC-K entirely unnecessarily, but for the sake of official recognition by the Greek state, registered as “heterodox” with the Greek authorities. Thus adding Sergianism, the complete subservience to secular power, to their Ecumenist heresy. The RTOC has needed no such registration to operate in Greece.

So it is incorrect therefore to call the RTOC isolationist.

The RTOC derives its apostolic succession via St. Philaret of New York, First Hierarch of ROCOR (+1985). It operates through conciliarity, and has catholic unity, even amidst real struggles and imperfections. Our disagreement, discernment and critique regarding World Orthodoxy and its individual components is legitimate. We haven´t declared the entire Orthodox Church to be apostate. We have declared that the World Orthodox have left the Orthodox Church by falling into the heresy of Ecumenism. Various Synods outside of World Orthodoxy have done the same thing, or left the only Church, the Orthodox Church, through schism and/or embracing other heresies. As it stands, we are the Orthodox Church.That is another point.

We welcome all those who want to join us and come to the same set of beliefs as we have and fulfill the other canonical requirements.

I will not be writing to you further or replying. I hope you will go to www.trueorthodox.eu, pray, study, get any errors corrected, and then be chrismated or baptised as appropriate. It should be noted that one of the parishes listed at www.trueorthodox.eu, St. Michael´s Guildford, England, was founded in 1974 as a parish of the Moscow Patriarchate. In 1975 the majority of the parish left and joined ROCOR. It has had many peregrinations ever since, and more needs to break or go into communion with others can never be ruled out, either now or in the future. The only True Church will always be somewhere. It is our job to try to ensure we are in it. Many and broad are the paths to perdition. Straight and narrow is the path to salvation.

We are the rational sheep, the True Flock. You are sadly in error. We are the only True Church. You, with your 3 different calendars and your celebrations led by heretics and even other religions, some of which are overtly hostile to Christianity, such as the current Ecumenical Patriarch Batholomew´s participation in Jewish-led prayers in a Synagogue in New York (still readily viewable on YouTube).

As the saying goes, "You don´t even know what day it is". The tragedy of the "Ukrainian Orthodox Church" is that the only True Church is right there in the Ukraine. There has been a problem of a working age priest being conscripted into the Ukrainian army, something we are currently fighting as it is not the role of priests to undergo military training. But, there has been no attempt, unlike in Russia and elsewhere, to seize our properties on trumped up pretexts by the Zelensky Government.

To repeat, I will not be replying to any further comments from you as you are clearly not yet ready to join Christ´s rational flock. Though with 5 likes and counting, clearly some people are favourable inclined at least to consider the idea. All the information you need can be referenced starting at www.trueorthodox.eu. If it is not a sin to ask for it, oh Lord, grant them repentance and eternal salvation. I have published my earlier response with a link to your video included, here: https://trueorthodoxfleauponerroneousfleas.blogspot.com/2025/12/the-solution-is-to-join-true-orthodox.html.

I have included this and other comments in a European Parliament livestream debate on the Ukraine this morning, as people need to be aware of the situation and what the Ukrainian Government is doing. I have sent a copy of it to my spiritual father Bishop Philaretos of Pallini and Western Europe via WhatsApp as he is in practice the first point of contact for all of Europe (outside of Russia and the territories ruled by Putin).

Adrian, a sinful layman.